Possible security changes discussed by RMA BOD

[wakeupcall]

Originally Posted by dreamliner

Thanks for the reminder Ping, moderator Haut and Zebra. My gibberish certainly doesn't make any sense to me either, and was not intended as a ping on Ping. Just meant to exemplify that even counselor, when having a bad hair day, can get carried away with non-sensical non-legalese gobbledigook, as in his shot at Sgt. Mobley..."Your fear mongering helped cheat us out of a neighborhood school kids could walk to which was being handed to us on a platter." That is so far from the truth, makes no sense, and certainly is totally unfair to Steve's reputation as we, meaning many, know it to be. I couldn't let that stand, and I know Wilbur and Steve have great respect for each other as do I to both. Heck, we all have bad hair days, and I don't even have any.

Once again we are getting caught up in insider knowledge and past history. I think I speak for many people in the community when I say that we were disappointed, even angry that a small group for selfish reasons, were able to derail the Escuela school.

I am not close to the action, so I never knew who those people who hurt our community so much "were or are". I still don't know, but apparently Wilburs comment to Steve singled him out as one of the leaders.

There is no reason to back and revisit that time, but it is good to know who sabotaged our great hope of a local school. I hope we have all learned from that time.

[Matthew]

I was not involved in the Escuela school discussions (fights), but we now know CSD does not and did not have the capacity to serve a school there. All the disagreements about a school behind the gates were a moot point given the fact that the school would not have had any toilets.

[Martha]

Originally Posted by Matthew

I was not involved in the Escuela school discussions (fights), but we now know CSD does not and did not have the capacity to serve a school there. All the disagreements about a school behind the gates were a moot point given the fact that the school would not have had any toilets.

Except that, at the time, CSD didn't say that. EGUSD said a group of residents opposing the Escuela site was the reason they backed out. Here is something from 2002, not exactly addressing CSD's capacity, but proof that the District was backing out of Escuela (and I promise not to log in the next time I read this thread...pretty sure y'all are clear on my position re: EGUSD/CRES...ahem!)

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[Matthew]

Originally Posted by Martha

Except that, at the time, CSD didn't say that. EGUSD said a group of residents opposing the Escuela site was the reason they backed out. Here is something from 2002, not exactly addressing CSD's capacity, but proof that the District was backing out of Escuela (and I promise not to log in the next time I read this thread...pretty sure y'all are clear on my position re: EGUSD/CRES...ahem!)

RanchoMurieta.com

I agree. Hindsight is 20/20.

[akulasquirrel]

Originally Posted by Matthew

I agree. Hindsight is 20/20.

I couldn't agree more... Hindsight is always 20/20 or better...
Just going off of memory, there were a number of reasons why the EGUSD decided not to pursue a school at the Escuela site. I recall that one of them had to do with the Waste Water system and one of the options explored briefly was an on-site waste water plant or an on-site septic system that needed a bit of acreage for it to work. Both got tossed out, and eventually the Frank property was looked at, a few other ideas were tossed around, and since that property is outside the CSD's boundaries, there'd be some need to extend the services out to that site and the EGUSD looked again at some kind of on-site wastewater system... As we all now know, the CSD couldn't provide the services due to capacity. The fact that the EGUSD ultimately abandoned that site for one where the present CRES site is merely mooted the whole issue.

Otherwise, I do recall that there was a contingent of residents (I never paid attention to who they were) who were vocal about not wanting to have a school site inside the gates. Their fear was that if the only access to that site was through the gates, effectively, the streets would have to be opened to the public for the purpose of going to and from the school and those people would not be accountable for their speeding (or whatever). I believe that eventually there was a proposal to put the entrance to the school on Stonehouse Road, then there was the realigning of Stonehouse Road when the proposed site became the Frank property...

It all gave me a headache. A lot of it is moot now. And a pretty good swerve from the original topic.

[joaquinmurieta]

paranoia is a great motivator

[joaquinmurieta]

which is the 'good feeling' people (sometimes me as well) get by having a gate and security even though there is no statistical evidence to support paying for it.