Business From Garage

[Yogi]

I recently noticed an add on the RM.com site about a company that sells, trades and upgrades golf carts. Rancho Murieta Golf Cars. It pretty much infers that the work is being done at their residences. If my memory serves me correctly this would be a violation of our Architectual/CC&R's rules?
Wilber, or anyone for that matter, what's your take on your neighbors business across the street?

[akulasquirrel]

Originally Posted by Yogi

I recently noticed an add on the RM.com site about a company that sells, trades and upgrades golf carts. Rancho Murieta Golf Cars. It pretty much infers that the work is being done at their residences. If my memory serves me correctly this would be a violation of our Architectual/CC&R's rules?
Wilber, or anyone for that matter, what's your take on your neighbors business across the street?

If the work is actually being performed at their residences, that might be a violation. Otherwise, the way I read the ad, those residences are simply where they can be contacted.

Here's the ad: http://www.ranchomurieta.com/ads/rmgolfcars/index.html

[Matthew]

I guess it depend on what they are doing. Here is the CC&Rs appropriate to business activities.

Section 8. Business Activities . No business activities of any kind whatsoever shall be conducted in any building or in any portion of any Lot without the prior approval of the Association; provided, however, the foregoing covenants shall not apply to the activities, signs or the maintenance of buildings
(including model homes) by the Association or Subdividers in furtherance of their purposes as set forth herein.

Notwithstanding the foregoing, the restrictions imposed by this section shall not be construed in such a manner as to prohibit any Owner from:

(a) maintaining his or her personal library within a Dwelling;

(b) keeping his or her personal business records or accounts therein;

(c) handling his or her personal or professional telephone calls or correspondence therefrom;

(d) engaging in other business activities, such as working at a computer, which involve no signage, noise or vehicular traffic; or

(e) conducting any other activities on the Owner's Lot otherwise compatible with residential use and the provisions of this Declaration which are permitted under applicable zoning laws or governmental regulations without the necessity of first obtaining a special use permit or similar specific governmental authorization. Such uses are expressly declared to be customarily incidental to the principal residential use of the property and not in violation of any provision of this section; provided, however, that an activity shall not be considered as "compatible with residential use" within the meaning of subparagraph (e) above, unless:

(i) The use or activity is clearly incidental and subordinate to use of the Lot for residential purposes;

(ii) The use or activity does not involve the advertising or display of products produced by occupants of the dwelling which are visible in any manner from the outside of the dwelling unit;

(iii) The use or activity does not generate pedestrian or vehicular traffic beyond that which is normal in a residential district, and shall not, under any circumstances, require the parking of more than two additional vehicles at any one time;

(iv) The activity does not result in the storage of material, equipment or supplies outof-doors;

(v) The activity does not require remodeling or construction of Lot improvements or facilities to accommodate the activity or use in a manner that changes the exterior of the Dwelling from a residential appearance to a commercial appearance; and

(vi) The activity does not result in any visible or audible evidence of the conduct of such home occupation outside the structure.

As an exception to this section, Subdividers shall be permitted to maintain model homes and sales offices at specific locations within the phase or phases they are subdividing approved by the Architectural Review Committee and the Sacramento County Planning Department. Dwellings, Lots or Common Areas used for model homes or sales offices shall be restored to the another appropriate use consistent with these restrictions at the close of any sales program. For example, a Dwelling used as a model home or a sales office shall be restored to use as a residential dwelling and a building located in the Common Area of a phase of development shall be restored to an appropriate Common Area use.

[akulasquirrel]

If they're following the rules, they're following the rules and shouldn't be punished for it. If they're not following the rules, then appropriate steps should be taken by the RMA to deal with and correct the problem.

It's that simple. Why make it more complex than it needs to be?

[Yogi]

Thanks Matt for the specifics but it does appear that section II about displaying of products may be happening. Hmmm. What to do?
Wilber?

[Yogi]

Originally Posted by akulasquirrel

If they're following the rules, they're following the rules and shouldn't be punished for it. If they're not following the rules, then appropriate steps should be taken by the RMA to deal with and correct the problem.

It's that simple. Why make it more complex than it needs to be?

Make it more complex? How about convoluted! Hell, we have a BOD that lives across the street from this activity that inquired at the last meeting why the Architectual Rules group was recinding fines for violations. Go figure

[feistylady]

I walk by this residence a lot, and I've never seen the person in question working on any golf carts. There is from time to time a golf cart with a "for sale" sign in the driveway, but heck, I've seen that at many different peoples houses over the years. Yogi, are you having such a boring day that you needed to stir up something?

[Wilbur]

I think Jerry's in compliance. But I'm not the judge.

He isn't building or repairing carts there. He has that done elsewhere. He's essentially a broker, he orders carts for people, gets them a better deal than they'd get on their own. On a given day he has a trade-in or two on hand and one will often be parked in the driveway with a for sale sign, just like so many others have a for sale sign in the window of their car. He's got storage elsewhere so there are not a bunch of carts on site. Jerry's stuff all fits in his good sized garage, his activity doesn't cause any parking violations. People know of him by word of mouth but what he does is pretty invisible and devoid of visual or other impact on the street and a stranger would detect nothing driving by. His neighbors pretty much adore him and Alice. That includes us.

There are complaint forms in the lobby if anyone thinks this is a problem worthy of addressing.

[Yogi]

Asked a simple question and received some comments on something that came to my attention and was just curious what other peoples take was. Hell, Im always stiring the pot. Feisty, let me quote you from another thread. "I called David the general manager of RMA and he told me that there is a CC&R that what John was doing required approval from the board.
That seems to have bothered you and this bothers me because I thought I couldn't run and advertise for that matter my golf cart repair company.

[Zebra Top]

Is Jerry going door-to-door asking if you want to buy a cart?