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Old 07-21-2008, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: Question for Lisa T?

I favor an incremental response. Penalties for vandalism should go up. WAY up. We already have restitution rights which I believe are never or almost never pursued. QWw ahould go after that even if it isn't "cost effective."

There should be no warnings for traffic offenses after the first one. But the one reminder is worthwhile as an educational experience. We just did rules changes, I believe, which foreited the right to a warning for extreme speeding, and ramped up fines for chronic offenders on their repeat offenses. I have seen no information on what impact that has had. The impacts of recent reforms should be assessed before dreaming up more and even more draconian ones. The board should get, and share, some statistics on numbers of tickets written, numbers of fines imposed, how much of that collected, whether we have yet hit ANYONE with the recent "repeat offender" enhancements.

I don't believe in "outing" members for public disgracing and have concerns about legal consequences. If we have members who are chronic offenders AND are just letting the fines ride unpaid indefinitely, as legend has it, then in at least those cases RMA should be suing to reduce those fines to judgments and seizing some assets, so as to make the point that nobody is immune even if they have a well stuffed pocket.

But what we don't need is to outlaw a bunch of things not currently outlawed. If we're to replace the moderate and legal curfew ordinance we had, that is one thing, trying to write the state's toughest one is quite another.

If we haven't been vigorously enforcing something with $100 fines, let's try vigorously enforcing with $100 fines before going nuclear with $500 fines. Except vandalism. That needs to come down hard and is not a lifestyle management intrusion into personal autonomy. Some of the other things being suggested are.

Let's go at this in incremental steps rather than go all "martial law" about it in one fell swoop.

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